Pit bulls are the dog of choice amongst dogmen, individuals who fight their pit bulls against other pit bulls. ! When the reporter asked this woman which breed was perfect for a family with small children, the woman replied "NONE of them", and then went on to explain how it's more about training, etc. Copyright © 2007-2021 DogsBite.org | Published by Lynn Media Group, DogsBite.org is a national dog bite victims' group dedicated to reducing serious dog attacks. May 20, 2011 at 04:02 PM. Sadly, we receive approximately 1,000 requests per week to take unwanted Pit Bulls. A study by the organization Animal People reports a 93% euthanasia rate for pit bulls and only one in 600 pits finding a forever home. but then back in the 60s Cockers (also a hunting breed) didn't have a coat that dragged the floor, either. May 17, 2011 at 02:24 PM. Those statistics affect taxpayers. May 20, 2011 at 11:01 AM, http://www.cdc.gov/HomeandRecreationalSafety/Dog-Bites/dogbite-factsheet.html. var url = document.URL; Second, if they are bothering to bring the dogs to an obedience class that also increases the odds of the dog staying in the home. Laura Francis | Did you know there are shelters around the country where 1 in 600 pit bulls make it out alive? CristyF | SBT's were the breed that was referred to as the "nanny dog" for their gentleness with children. And it's certainly a challenging one (and like Emily notes, no data for it). | | !!!! Brent | In the 12 years since, you can bet that the Pit Bull population has only grown larger. The house feels empty now since she passed on. Submit. well the diff. | Make a donation today », Page last modified: document.write (document.lastModified); | Sitemap, In the 15-year period of 2005 through 2019, canines killed 521 Americans. (Name and email address are required. I have heard the "nanny dog" reference for at least the last 9 years, so it has been around awhile. Parents with autistic children are so desperate for an answer and help they are still trying to sue vaccine manufacturers based on that study. We are seeing fewer of them, though. Only one out of 600 pit bull type dogs born find and keep a forever home, facts on the ground, pit bulls in the incinerator. r/BanPitBulls: A subreddit for discussing the inherent dangers of pit bulls, exposing the pro-pit propaganda lobby, and debunking lies about the … Press J to jump to the feed. Why people adopt pets vs buy, & vice versa - Research from PetSmart Charities, Confirmation bias and the partisan politics of the animal welfare movement, Truth, deceit, & why Breed Specific Legislation fails regardless of what some might say, Creating Fear in the Media and Politics - on terrorists, pit bulls, & mis-information. May 23, 2011 at 01:03 PM. The term was first used in 1927. 2! Please enable JavaScript if you would like to comment on this blog. Emily, I've seen some "hater" posts with the anti-nanny dog position, but wasn't sure how much of what they said was true and how much of it was fear of muscular, short-haired, blocky-headed dogs. Edmonton 02/01/2021. May 17, 2011 at 11:37 AM. This subject is important to me as a dog lover and pit bull owner. Even when it was legal only about, what, 2% of the dogs were matched? May 17, 2011 at 01:57 PM. Does Pay As You Wish Pricing have a place for animal shelters? function callPin(permalink) { Safer. A fairly recent research study from GfK Roper indicates that 30% of all pets are gotten from shelters or rescues (this is for dogs and cats -- cat numbers tend to be lower because people have a higher tendency to "take in" cats). Maybe you have more sophisticated readers than you realized? I guess it's not PC to write into an ordinance, "No black or hispanic young males, gang-bangers, or residents that live in X,Y, and Z ZIP codes can own pit bulls". Brent - I have a question about an assumption you made that I'd be curious to hear your opinion about. Keep in mind that all numbers are estimates -- because no "real" number exists. I guess I shouldn't complain - look at that horrific junk science study on autism that came out of the UK on vaccinations and how that affected people vaccinating their children. That is why in 2006, our organization began to take form and realize its purpose: Dont Educate, EXPOSE!!!! Estimates say that 2,800 pit bulls a day, and, 1 *million* pit bulls a year are euthanized. Posted by: Posted by: It isn't unbelievable to me that someone somewhere used these dogs for that purpose -- but again, I can neither confirm nor deny the story. Dog bites vs dog attacks -- What determines the difference? I can't completely trace the origination of the source of the number -- but it seems to be yet another one of those urban legends of shelter that continues to exist in shelters. I always wonder how a math-heavy post will go over... Emily -- I've heard the "nanny dog" thing for years. I find that I have to try a different tactic, though, than to throw accurate stats at them, as they are not capable of evaluating good from bad stats and just fall back on whichever "data" they want to believe. Shelter statistics are equally staggering – it is estimated that more than 80% of Pit Bulls in shelters are euthanized, and typically only 1 in 600 Pit Bulls finds a loving home. EmilyS | Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Because of this terrible past, they are still misunderstood today for being vicious and deadly. Brent makes some reasonable assumptions.. but they're just that (and as he notes, he can't make the figures produce that 1 in 600 thing however he adjusts them). Again, based on the percent of dogs in shelters and in ownership, I think splitting the middle here will work, and let's, for the sake of argument, say there are 7.5 million owned pit bulls in this country. Posted by: And they hate the term for its implication that it's ok to leave your dog alone with the kids... Posted by: Your comment has not yet been posted. This pendant is made out of recycled game tile. Right now, nearly 200 of the 600 dogs in Albuquerque shelters are pit bulls or pit bull mixes. It's the same for Border Collies, Labs, and any other working breed. kmk | This would make the number of pit bulls that enters the shelter finding a forever home as closer to 1 in 6 -- not 1 in 600. Posted by: May 17, 2011 at 02:33 PM. Some estimates are up to double that number. It's been years since I've seen this "statistic" -- but apparently it's been making a resurfacing of late....and a google search shows a cool 2.8 million references to the "statistic". EmilyS | Lori S. | Emily -- thanks for posting the CDC numbers - -and yes, that's the source. One example of well known SAR Pit Bulls is Kris Crawford and her dogs. Smarter. It should be enough for us to say that pit bulls were beloved family pets (and at the same time they were commonly fighting dogs)... we have tons of photographic/written contemporary evidence for that, and we can throw that evidence in the haters' faces. May 17, 2011 at 10:25 AM. While many praise the move, are we just hiding from our own failings as rescues? Posted by: In your piece, you make the assumption that the percentage of owned dogs that were adopted (somewhere around 20-30%) will be the same as the percentage of owned pit bulls that were adopted. DON'T OVER BREED! May 18, 2011 at 04:07 PM. Of the approximate 3.9 million dogs that enter the shelter system, about 1.4 million, or one in three, make it out. People like to say things and then repeat them as truth. } else if ( query != "pintix=1" ) { There was another statistic we used to hear a lot, but I haven't heard it lately, and it was "only one in six dogs stays in its original home". Sure, it can help to give them an alternate image to consider, but give them FACTS and effective, breed-neutral alternatives for preventing dog bites & attacks. Now I realize that most of these numbers are approximations -- but even if you adjust them to a different reasonable number, it is impossible to get anywhere near the "1 in 600" number. One of the aims of The Pit Bull Foundation is to rehabilitate these dogs until they can be adopted out into forever homes. 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All were historically bred for two purposes: to control vermin and to fight. Wow, hadn't heard that! Pit bull is a term used in the United States for a type of dog descended from bulldogs and terriers, while in other countries such as the United Kingdom the term is used as an abbreviation of the American Pit Bull Terrier breed. If only 1 pit bull finds a home for every 599 that is killed, for the "1 in 600" data point to be true, that would leave only 1,333 pit bulls that are adopted from shelters or rescues (800,000 divided by 600). Once in the shelter system, only 1 in 600 Pit Bulls will find a home. As others have said, THANKS for doing the math and showing how this number can't possibly be true. I forget which one. And of course, all the studies I have seen suggest that most shelter workers are no more able to identify dog breeds than the average citizen. EmilyS | A very small percentage of them were actually used for their original purpose and an even smaller percentage excelled at their job, and those were the ones that were bred. Beck advocates current pit bull owners to use a muzzle and other precautions as necessary. Because we all know that's what they're doing with BSL, I don't care what they say. Hospital reports maybe? yes Lori, the pit bull haters use the nanny dog against us, because they know it's not true. url = url.replace( /#/, "" ); > READ MORE ABOUT SAL Pittie Posse Presents: "Bad Reputation" Lady Luck's burlesque show with no limits except that the music must rock. It shows some pit bulls as family dogs. THIS link is circulating around FaceBook and everyone is just going apesh** over it: http://www.ywgrossman.com/photoblog/?p=676 Cause if it's on the Internet, it must be true... Great photos, bogus commentary... (check out the kid with the dog in a Colby harness and chain leash...), Posted by: EmilyS, I'm with you on the "dogfighting" thing. Yes, the Standard Poodle is actually a German breed (not French) originally used for hunting. if ( permalink == url ) { If we base our assumption that there are about 7.5 million owned pit bulls in this country - and let's say, for arguments sake, 20% are gotten through adoptions (the national number is probably somewhere between 24% and 30% based on the studies above). Education is key to their dream of being free. KMK: the "nanny dog" thing started about a year ago, as far as I can tell. Pit bull type dogs include breeds such as Staffordshire bull terriers, American pit bull terriers, and American Staffordshire terriers, amongst others. log in sign up. Post Sep 23, 2009 #1 2009-09-23T01:57 VS I don't want idiots coming here telling me that "One paw swipe from bear and it's all over" - Yes common sense but these are fighting pitbulls that have the fighting mentality, these are man made monsters & by far the best fighting dog for their size, I'd go with the dogs in this match up because the bear is overpowered in this match up. Brent might remember (it was in Lee's Summit) - it may have been the study about intact dogs being more dangerous. Don’t judge a dog by its name. Lori S - you're right - the politicians always say, "Oh, we don't mean YOUR DOGS or PEOPLE LIKE YOU". Of course it's become WAY overdone. :-), Posted by: I always think of Standard Poodles...and can't imaging any of the ones I've met being worth a lick at bird hunding. Always considered a threat to everyone else. Animal People News recently reported that "U.S. shelters kill about 1.4 million dogs per year, including 750,000 pit bulls … |, Posted by: years ago a TV reporter from Joplin in southern Missouri went to a friend's farm to interview them about their pit bulls. Kind of makes me sad to hold technical degrees. It is part of the UKC description of the APBT (actually, part of the actual standard, as I read it) that these dogs were considered good with children. Posted at 10:14 AM in Mythbusting, Pit Bulls | Permalink, | May 27, 2011 at 12:13 PM. Posted by: I'm so glad to see you apply your analytical skills to exposing it. May 27, 2011 at 06:24 PM. This event WILL sell out, grab your tickets today. This number seems really high to me, especially when we try to tout that dogs are safer that most other things. Having trouble reading this image? If the 1 in 600 number were to be true, this would mean for each of these adopted pit bulls, there would be 599 that was killed at a shelter. Going to make a few comments since I have been out of town for a few days. 1 in 600. It is not evidence that the pit bull was CALLED a "nanny dog" or even thought of as a babysitter. Lindsay McCormick | But I've tried to provide a fair representation of the numbers. 1. The cut actually had a practical purpose - the hair left on the joints kept the joints warm. Pit bulls were selectively bred for "gameness," the ability to finish a fight. 1 in 600 pit bulls get out of animal shelters alive. To be historical, you'd have to find it in a source from say, 1900-1930, the period of these wonderful photographs. When we exaggerate, we lose effectiveness... which is the point Brent is making as well. Yes, there are still too many 'pit bulls' being killed in shelters. May 18, 2011 at 09:25 PM. May 17, 2011 at 02:40 PM. Error type: Best Friends No More Homeless Pets Conference 2013, Late Night Musings: Clearing the Shelters, Why Animal Welfare Advocates Should Vote for Jolie Justus for Mayor of Kansas City, Late Night Musings: Leading by example and the changing image of pit bulls (and cats!) One million pit bulls are put down each year. @Lindsay: that's just a website with some great pictures of dogs with kids, that's become viral right now. the pit bull a "nanny dog"? Pit Bull Prejudice Contact Us. Estimates also say only 1 in 600 pits find forever homes. Posted by: But we need to be honest -- and not use outlandish statements that make the stigma worse, not better. var query = window.location.search.substring(1); User account menu • 1 in 600 pits has a home. Pit Bulls are the Caucasian Males of the Dog World. Posted by: Over 75% of shelters euthanize pit bulls right after they`ve been taken in. They also say 1 in 600 pit bulls born will ever be adopted into a good home. While we're talking about numbers, there is a number I have been seeing quoted a little more than seldom. It's generally not your beloved family pet politicians are picturing when they are considering BSL. On the one hand, your are correct. Using an outlandish number like "1 in 600" only makes the dogs seem unwanted -- adding to a stigma that already exists. Posted by: (And why watching our language would help our cause), Academic Study on dog bites in the Netherlands (and partially why they repealed their breed ban). Thank you! Still looking for the "study" to confirm this (and to see how they worked the math). Ellen Weinstock | An award-winning photographer has made it her mission to change these stats. This prevents automated programs from posting comments. thanks for the information. 26.5x10 front 26x12 rear Pit bull rockers Msa rims Can am bolt pattern 1000 obo make me an offer Favourite Wanted: looking for unwanted pets..hopefully we can get a big dog. They were almost always taken from the dam/litter way too soon, creating yet more problems. August 22, 2011 at 06:01 PM. Pit Bulls are used in Search and Rescue work. Then, when you take into account some people putting importance on AKC papers -- which at least American Pit Bull Terriers can't even get because they aren't recognized -- you then have a huge number of breeds that seem like they'd have MUCH lower % adopted numbers than 'pit bulls'. If 24% of all 'pit bulls' were adopted from shelters, that would mean that each year, roughly 150,000 of the 625,000 new 'pit bulls' taken into homes would be adopted from shelters (not 1,333 - which would be the number if the "1 in 600" were true). If they are unclaimed by their owner -- with evidence of ownership such as a veterinary bill -- within three business days, the animals are euthanized. More Humane. 1. There just aren't any nationwide statistics about breeds in shelters. David Hall, director of the New Albany Floyd County Animal Control and Shelter, said pit bulls and other similar breeds, such as the Rottweiler, often come into the shelter. I had thought that the AKC made similar statements in their descriptions of the AST and SBT, not as part of the official standard, but as part of their general breed descriptions, but I cannot find that on the AKC site, so either I made that up (not completely impossible) or they have changed it. Anytime you see "news" or blogs that start a sentence containing a statistic with the phrase "It is said that..." or "People say that...", it's probably time for all us to step back and wonder who is really saying those things and where do the original numbers come from. BadRap took a crack at the b.s. } I'm from the UK, and I've always heard SBTs referred to as "nanny dogs". Combined, pit bulls and rottweilers contributed to 76% of the total recorded deaths. Lori S. | “We are keeping them alive against their own best interests.”. Some simple math makes this comment seem so outrageous that it doesn't even come close to passing the sniff test. Keyword: *Trained. Given that in the Kansas City metro alone we adopt out more than 150 each year (which is 12% of that number) 1,333 seems REALLY low. Animal People News recently reported that "U.S. shelters kill about 1.4 million dogs per year, including 750,000 pit bulls and close mixes.". Oct 22, 2013 - 1 out of every 600 Pit Bulls are adopted from shelters. Now, the SBT allegedly IS called the "nanny dog" in England but none of the SBT experts I have asked has ever found an historical reference to support the use of that term.. they speculate that it is was someone's promotional gimmick. window.location=permalink+"?pintix=1"; lori | Recently, I saw someone up the number to 1 in 700! THAT is how you win. 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